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 Post subject: Need help with identifying this horn
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:41 am 
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I just bought this horn, but I don't know what type is it, the guy who sell it just say "It's from some train..." Very Happy . It is 50cm (about 19.8") long with 85mm (3.4") diaphragm, mouth diameter is 18.5cm (7.3"). I tested it (1 mile from a small village and old women in there kneeled and pray - they thought it's honks of angel of death and the apocalypse is here Laughing . I think they never saw any train Very Happy ) and it sounds at approximately 500Hz.
Any ideas?
Thank you very much.
Nicholas


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:02 am 
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Kokums SuperTyfon These are what American Leslie's descended from.

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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 9:14 am 
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Thanks, I was confused because there is no tags.
It comes from train, which is rare, but its Czech train from communistc era.

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 Post subject: Re: Need help with identifying this horn
PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 5:05 am 
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Good morning from France and welcome on board.
Glad to see a fellow European here, we're not that many!!!

Your story about the old women made me laugh. It's funny to see how people in remote places can easily link unexpected things to religious matters!!!

500Hz is high, your horn should blow a lot lower, at least 300Hz.

I regret to say that your horn looks very much like a Supertyfon but it is not. First, the power chamber, it should be bronze with "Supertyfon" embossed on the back (like my avatar). Then the projector, it should be copper and a lot wider. This one is brass, tighter and with no round tag.

What you have there is a russian copy of the Supertyfon and made for the Czech Railways.
Check this very informative site from a russian fan of local Tyfons:
http://www.gydkov.net/tifonologia.html
An english translation can be found here:
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.gydkov.net/tifonologia/tyfon-thehskiy.html&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.fr&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhg1w4Wpz1pu-CCsezZzYBReVGpMbw

This is a good old product from Soviet Russia under Commies' rule, made from Western plans and distributed to its european valets.
But this certainly does not affect its sound qualities.

I have myself a czech horn found in Germany, made of steel and brass, it has a tag with "Kovotvar VD Kuty" stamped on it.
Sounds to be now a large galvanised steel manufacturer in SK.
Not really nice and reliable.

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 Post subject: Re: Need help with identifying this horn
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:22 am 
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Warning: This poor translation may cause psychic damage if you will continue reading!

I'm also glad there is not only Americans, but it is sad, that I'm maybe only Czech, who is interested in horns and sirens.

Thank you very much! This horn seems odd to supertyfon, because I know, that Kockums supertyfon have some tags on it's power chamber, but I just thought, that it's some special version for Czechoslovakia.
I wanted to post a video here, but when I'm blowing it, I realized, that I forgot my camera at home. Maybe in this month, I will blow it once more and record it.
With the frequency you are maybe correct, 500Hz is too high, I just guess it, but I don't have much experience with this.

I got this horn for $50, do you think it is good price?
Greetings from Czech republic!
Nicholas

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 Post subject: Re: Need help with identifying this horn
PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:47 am 
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It sounds little bit lower than in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRIBtivclP8&feature=player_embedded so not 500Hz Embarassed

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